{"id":58380,"date":"2016-02-21T18:01:36","date_gmt":"2016-02-21T23:01:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ringsidereport.com\/?p=58380"},"modified":"2016-02-21T18:01:36","modified_gmt":"2016-02-21T23:01:36","slug":"vinny-paz-his-life-story-becoming-the-next-boxing-blockbuster-movie-and-some-of-the-greatest-stories-from-one-of-boxings-greatest-story-tellers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ringsidereport.com\/?p=58380","title":{"rendered":"Vinny Paz: His Life Story Becoming the Next Boxing Blockbuster Movie and Some of the Greatest Stories from One of Boxing’s Greatest Story Tellers"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"IMG_3953\"<\/a>Exclusive interview by Jesse “New School” Wright<\/strong><\/p>\n

“You know, in life, a lot of times you need to do some crazy things to make yourself get better; to make yourself be better. To do what you wanna do, sometimes you gotta do things that are a little crazy or out of the ordinary. This movie is gonna inspire a lot of people because of that.” —Vinny Paz<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

When you talk to Vinny, you feel like you’ve known the guy for years. There’s something comfortably familiar about the guy when you meet him. He’s like that one friend we all have that’s the life of the party and always has a great story to tell. Before I met Vinny, my publisher “Bad” Brad Berkwitt told me “Vinny’s crazy, but he’s the good kinda crazy.” I couldn’t have said it better myself.<\/p>\n

With his wild and humorous personality, Vinny is magnetic by nature. He has the attitude that makes him so big, the only channel of media that can fit him is the big screen. That’s exactly what is going to happen in the Martin Scorsese produced and Ben Younger directed film, “Bleed for This.” It’s not just a boxing movie, it’s an inspirational tale of redemption and never accepting your fate, even if you have to do some crazy things. Vinny gives great insight on the film, but the stories he tells are as hysterical as they are heart wrenching. This is the true story of \u201cThe Pazmanian Devil\u201d.<\/p>\n

JW: You have a hell of a story and it\u2019s probably going to make a hell of a movie. Tell us about your story and what we can expect from that.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Well, it was filmed a lot here in Rhode Island and I am amazed in how great it came out. I saw it a couple weeks ago in New York City after Martin Scorsese had edited the whole movie. It\u2019s so good. It\u2019s devastating. It\u2019s gonna inspire and give a lot of people around the world a lot of courage. It\u2019s a great story; it\u2019s my story. You know it\u2019s like nothing for me. It\u2019s really cool after seeing it on the screen all played out.<\/p>\n

JW: You say it\u2019s gonna inspire a lot of people. A lot of people find inspiration in boxing movies. For you, I believe it was \u201cRocky\u201d that did it.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

That was the fish that grabbed my hook, yeah.<\/p>\n

JW: What is it about the boxing stories that inspires people and makes them fall in love?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Well, my story is I won my second world title and I was back on top again and I thought life couldn\u2019t get any better. But you ALWAYS gotta realize that anything can happen at any time, and boom I get in a car crash a couple weeks after I win the world title. So the doctor told me \u201cThat\u2019s it son, you\u2019re not gonna fight anymore, it\u2019s over,\u201d and I just didn\u2019t want to hear that. I was in the prime of my life. I just had the fight of my life. I was like what are you talking about doc? There\u2019s no freakin way I\u2019m stopping now. I got lucky you know. A lot of hard work; you gotta be lucky in life and it happened.<\/p>\n

JW: Take me through this, because nobody\u2019s gonna know what it\u2019s like to be told you can\u2019t box when it means everything to you. What are the emotions that you felt when the doctor told you you\u2019re lucky to walk, and boxing is out of the question?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

I\u2019ll never forget that moment. I was lying on the table and they had just taken x-rays of my neck. When he said that to me, my heart dropped, and I just got mad. I said \u201cwhat are you talking about?\u201d There\u2019s no way I\u2019m not gonna box. That\u2019s just not gonna happen. He just shook his head and walked away. I knew he felt bad for me, but everything worked out. You know, in life, a lot of times you need to do some crazy things to make yourself get better; to make yourself be better. To do what you wanna do, sometimes you gotta do things that are a little crazy or out of the ordinary. This movie is gonna inspire a lot of people because of that.<\/p>\n

JW: You got back to training almost immediately; you still had the halo in your head. Was there ever a time where you thought \u201cThis is crazy, what am I doing?\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Plenty of nights\u2026 Plenty of nights when you\u2019re home alone, and I look in the mirror and I\u2019m seeing the halo on my head, four screws in my skull and I wish I could shake my head if I was able to. I look in the mirror and I say \u201cWhat are you doin?\u201d What are you doin man? Are you really gonna do this? Well yes, yes you are, so let\u2019s just f\u2019n do it and get it over with. We\u2019re gonna make this happen.<\/p>\n

I remember talkin to my mother, and my mother was so cute. I had the greatest parents. I got really lucky to have great parents. I just remember one night I had the halo on, I was in the house and I was sittin at the table. My mother was at one side and I was on the other, just the two of us. She said to me \u201cVinny why do you gotta do this? Vinny stop, please. You don\u2019t need this, there\u2019s so many things you can do.\u201d She says \u201cyou\u2019re gonna get hurt.\u201d I said \u201cMa, listen, you know I love you, but listen to me, I\u2019m gonna make this happen, or I\u2019m gonna die tryin.\u201d She started cryin! Oh boy. She said \u201cVinny don\u2019t talk like that!\u201d I remember that moment like it was yesterday.<\/p>\n

JW: People get told they can\u2019t do things all the time. In your situation, there was probably a legitimate claim when they told you that, but you did it anyways. What advice would you give to somebody being told that they can\u2019t do what they love?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Well, I\u2019m not one of those guys that say to people you can do whatever you want to do, you can do anything. Because that\u2019s not true, you can\u2019t do anything you want to do. You know, I wanted to play basketball when I was a kid, but Shaq would\u2019ve ruined me. You know what I mean? I can\u2019t stuff a basketball. At 5\u20198 on a good hair day, you\u2019re not gonna be a basketball star, but I boxed, and at boxing I wanted to be the best I could be. I wanted to be the greatest fighter. That\u2019s what you can do. When you find what you like to do, you be the best at it, and that can definitely happen.<\/p>\n

I hate when people say that, \u201cYou can do anything you want to do.\u201d You can\u2019t do that, it\u2019s impossible. I wanna be taller, I\u2019m not taller, there\u2019s no way I can be that. You know, people have to be realistic and when you find what you really like to do and what you can do, you be the best at that. That\u2019s a fact.<\/p>\n

JW: Getting back on the movie, the cast is reeediculous, it\u2019s stacked top to bottom. Now you\u2019ve got a kid Miles Teller, and recently he\u2019s been getting on people\u2019s radars, but they\u2019re saying he might be the next Leo (DiCaprio).<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

You know what\u2019s gonna make him the next Leo? My story \u201cBleed for This\u201d is gonna make him the next Leo. It\u2019s so crazy my story. I just sit down and shake my head at times and go \u201cI just wanted to box when I was five.\u201d How did all this happen? But Miles is gonna be a big star after this and that movie\u2019s gonna win a lot of awards. I saw it a couple weeks ago in New York City, and when I tell you it was absolutely fabulous. I couldn\u2019t believe it. The whole way through my girl\u2019s wiping my face to get the tears out of my face.<\/p>\n

JW: Do you think he did a good job playing you?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

He did great job playing me. He didn\u2019t do a good job, he did a great job. He was really good. It\u2019s pretty funny when I\u2019m with him, like one day I wanted to go watch him box. So he says to me \u201cVinny, you know, maybe you shouldn\u2019t come because you\u2019re kinda gonna make me really nervous.\u201d I\u2019m like Miles don\u2019t worry about it. He\u2019s like \u201cNah Vinny, you\u2019re gonna make me really uncomfortable, you know you\u2019re like a great fighter and I\u2019m just an actor and I\u2019m gonna feel like maybe I\u2019m not gonna do a good job, I\u2019d like it if you weren\u2019t there.\u201d So I\u2019m like alright, I won\u2019t come. He did a great job though. He\u2019s an actor, not a boxer, but he just did a super job.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s funny, cause when I first met him, he\u2019s like \u201cVinny, let\u2019s talk a little bit because I wanna get your accent down.\u201d I says to him Miles, what are you talking about? I don\u2019t have a fuckin accent. What do you mean? What do you mean!? He\u2019s like \u201cUhh, yeah you do Vinny.\u201d I\u2019m like uhhh, no I don\u2019t Miles! It was pretty funny. He got me down pretty good.<\/p>\n

JW: (Still laughing) He probably spent a lot of time with you. You\u2019re a pretty particular guy, and you definitely do have an accent!<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

I guess I do\u2026 (both laughing )<\/p>\n

JW: So he probably had to spend a lot of time getting your personality and mannerisms down right?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

He pulled it off really good in the movie. It just came out excellent. Like you said, the cast of characters were just off the hook hot. Aaron Eckhart played the greatest Kevin Rooney. He was tremendous. Ciaran Hinds played a great Angelo Pazienza who was my dad. Katey Sagal played my mom, which was awesome. When I first met Katey, she goes \u201cOh my God Vinny\u201d I says Katey, you\u2019re way too sexy to play my mother, how are you gonna play this off? (both laughing hysterically). She goes \u201cOh you\u2019re so cute.\u201d I\u2019m like no serious Katey. I swear though Jes, when you see her, it looked like my mother. When you see her, it was amazing and she acted like my mom: very docile and a real worry wart. It was\u2026 it\u2019s just the greatest movie. When you\u2019re in it, and you see it and you\u2019re watching it. It\u2019s gonna come out around September, and when you\u2019re watching it you\u2019re gonna go damn, you know Vinny was right.<\/p>\n

JW: And a lot of people who don\u2019t even like boxing are excited for it.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Yeah, and you know it\u2019s not a boxing movie. It\u2019s a story of a comeback and a story of determination and persistence and doing your own thing, getting done what you want to be done, making it happen. It\u2019s really not a boxing story. Boxing is just the back drop that it happens to be. People are gonna be really inspired by it. It\u2019s gonna help a lot of people.<\/p>\n

JW: So here\u2019s one that\u2019s kinda funny. You look through it, and it\u2019s got an amazing cast. Then for Arturo Gatti, it\u2019s Jerry Ferrara. How did he get in the role of Gatti?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

You know what, they talked about him playing me at one time and I talked to him. He\u2019s a really nice kid and he boxed a lot when he was younger. So that\u2019s what they go by. I don\u2019t know how they\u2019re gonna make him play Arturo Gatti, but I guess he\u2019s got boxing skills and he has that experience and he loves it. He loves boxing, so he asked for the role, but I don\u2019t know how he\u2019s gonna pull it off. We\u2019ll see.<\/p>\n

JW: I wish him the best, but in the Entourage movie he got his ass kicked by Ronda Rousey.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

You know what! I just watched Ronda on Ellen (laughing)!<\/p>\n

JW: You a big fan?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

I\u2019m a big fan of Ellen, not Ronda. No, Ronda\u2019s cool too! I like her even more after I saw her on this interview.<\/p>\n

JW: If she learned how to box she\u2019d have a solid game. As a person she\u2019s pretty cool.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Absolutely.<\/p>\n

JW: Now here\u2019s the big one. You have Martin Scorsese on the movie!<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

That\u2019s Marty Scorsese. That\u2019s the Diamond<\/p>\n

JW: That\u2019s the \u201cRaging Bull\u201d Scorsese. That\u2019s the man. What\u2019s his role on the movie?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

He\u2019s the producer, he was the main editor. He edited the movie, and when I went to see it, it was right after he completed the editing process. He usually brings his movies to a silence. I don\u2019t know if you\u2019ve seen this in his movies. He did it in mine, I think he did it twice. I watched it with my girlfriend, I think she remembers more of it than me because I was just like, this is unbelievable. It\u2019s like a fight, like I don\u2019t remember. When I get out of the ring I don\u2019t remember everything that happened in the ring. It was the same thing when I watched my movie, like I kinda blacked out from it.<\/p>\n

Scorsese did the greatest job of editing. He brought it to silence once I know, but I think he did it twice and it was just devastating. The music in this movie was devastating. It\u2019s not the music that I like, but it was unbelievable. The director sat right next to me and my girl was on the other side of me. After every big scene, which was every five minutes, he\u2019s looking over at me to see my reaction. It was great, he was great. Ben Younger is just great. He is the writer and director of it and he just did the greatest job ever. I went and watched him a couple of days while he was directing, and I couldn\u2019t believe how unbelievable he was at that job. Like we were talking about earlier about how people are meant to do things. He was meant to direct movies.<\/p>\n

JW: I\u2019ve been watching a lot of video on you, and I swear to God I get motion sickness watching you fight because you move so much.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

That\u2019s funny you say that, and not a lot of people say that to me. Not a lot of people realize that. My success was, I was a great fighter because I was lucky that I was fast. I was really fast. I really considered myself the fastest white boy in the game, but I had some good power and I was just lucky to have the skill to do what I did. Like when I was talking earlier, Shaq was born to be a good basketball player, you know Kobe Bryant was born to be a good basketball player. You know I was not born to be a good basketball player; I was born to be a good fighter. You know, it didn\u2019t roll in to place, because I worked hard. I had to work hard so much because so many guys were better than me and maybe had more talent, but not more heart. That\u2019s what I won on a lot of times.<\/p>\n

JW: That fight against Roger Mayweather, I just finished watching it.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

That\u2019s how the movie opens up, with that fight.<\/p>\n

JW: Really?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Yeah, because it had me on the bicycle, wrapped up in cellophane trying to lose weight to make weight for the fight because I couldn\u2019t make 140. I finally made it and he had a great fight, and he kicked my ass, he had a great fight and I was dead.<\/p>\n

JW: We\u2019re you feeling that though? Because that\u2019s serious stuff, you were so dehydrated that by the end of the fight you collapsed.<\/p>\n

I was so dehydrated I almost died after the fight. The nurse said to my father, because they took me to the hospital when I passed out. I was on the table, and they had the needles in me filling me up with fluid in both arms, and the nurse said to my dad\u2026 and it\u2019s so unbelievable, my life\u2019s so crazy, because if my dad wasn\u2019t with me I would\u2019ve died. Thank God I had the greatest father or this movie would\u2019ve never been done because none of this would\u2019ve ever happened after the Mayweather fight.<\/p>\n

I was literally on the table, and I was so dehydrated and so depressed, I remember, vividly, just me saying, you know fuck it, I lost the fight, I don\u2019t care I\u2019m gonna die. I saw myself going up through clouds, and going up and up and up. The nurse says to my father, she says \u201cMr. Pazienza, we\u2019re losing your son, he\u2019s only got one heart beat every six to seven seconds.\u201d And when she said that to my dad, my dad grabbed my shirt that I had on, and he started shaking me violently, and boom, I came back down. I was gone, I was literally dying. Not a lot of people know that story, but that\u2019s a fact. I would be dead right now if it wasn\u2019t for that. Because I was going through it, and I thought, this feels good, I was going up through clouds and it felt great, it felt so relaxing. It felt awesome like I was going to a greater place. Believe me, I\u2019m not a religious guy and for me to tell you that is a fact, it\u2019s not an exaggeration or anything. I was going up in white clouds, and when my father started shaking me, it stopped and I came down, and my heartbeat came back to one every three seconds.<\/p>\n

JW: Wow\u2026 So you go from getting in the ring with a good fighter, you fight your heart out, you give it everything you got and you never quit. Then all of a sudden when you\u2019re in this bed, the time finally comes where you just\u2026 I mean where does that switch come from where you\u2019d do anything to win at one point, but then call it quits afterwards?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

That\u2019s just how it went down. You know, Sylvester Stallone\u2019s in the front row, it was a world title fight, I felt embarrassed. It was the first time anybody put me on my ass. You know, I immediately popped back up, but I was so embarrassed and I couldn\u2019t believe it. That don\u2019t happen to me. I was just lettin go. I just said fuck it, you know it feels good and fuck it, I just lost the fight and that\u2019s part of why I did what I did and I am who I am. You know, but at that moment, I was just giving up. That\u2019s good inspiration for people because, you can\u2019t give up!<\/p>\n

Thank God I had the greatest parents. Thank God my dad was there, because if he isn\u2019t, I\u2019m gone after that fight. At that moment, you know the nurses and doctors in the hospital, you know, it\u2019s not that they don\u2019t care, but they\u2019re not gonna be with you around the clock. They\u2019re not gonna bring you back to life and my father was amazing. I\u2019m lucky he was there because if he wasn\u2019t, we wouldn\u2019t even be having this conversation. It\u2019s so amazing how life goes.<\/p>\n

JW: Especially your life. I\u2019ll be honest, it\u2019s very moving. I say this with all due respect, but when we see this in a movie, that\u2019s going to be an amazing thing to watch. It really is.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

That\u2019s cool. I like you saying that. It really was awesome. It was better than I thought it was gonna be, because they did a couple of things that I didn\u2019t like and I didn\u2019t think it was gonna be that good. But all the things I didn\u2019t like, they didn\u2019t put in.<\/p>\n

JW: Last few questions will be some light hearted fun ones. Fun and funny thing about you is when you get in the ring you really screw with guys: you leave the hand in their face, shove them, hit them until the ref breaks it and you talk! You get in their face and you talk. So I\u2019ll give you an example and you tell me if you remember what you said. In the end of the first round of Roy Jones, JR., you two were talking a lot back and forth. Do you remember the way that conversation went?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Some fights I get so amped up for, and for that fight, I tell this to people a lot of times, I say out of 60 fights, I only had five bad fights. You know I can name them off the bat, five bad fights. It was Haugen 2, Loreto Garza, Roger Mayweather, Aaron Davis and Roy Jones, JR. I don\u2019t remember much about the fight, it was just a bad, bad night. When I was walking to the ring against Roger Mayweather, I was saying oh God please have this guy have a bad night because I feel like shit. Haugen the same thing, you know I beat him two out of three times, but in the second one I couldn\u2019t make the weight and I was dying.<\/p>\n

I lost twelve pounds in one day. Aaron Davis the same thing. I felt terrible. Roy Jones, JR., I might not have beat Roy Jones, JR., because he was the greatest at one time. He was the heavyweight champion of the world. I might not have beat him, but I definitely wouldn\u2019t have gotten stopped. I was so mad about that. I was so so mad. I come back from everything strong though as I did after that fight, and after that fight they asked me who I wanted to fight. I said you know who I want to fight? Everybody wants to say I\u2019m done because Roy Jones, JR. stopped me? I want to fight this undefeated kid from Boston. He thinks he\u2019s a badass? He thinks he\u2019s gonna be the champ? I said I\u2019ll kill this kid. So I took the fight with this kid Dana Rosenblatt, and he\u2019s acting like I\u2019m a stepping stone for him. I\u2019m like, are you out of your mind kid? I\u2019m gonna kill you, and sure enough I knocked him out in the fourth round. It ended just how I thought it was gonna go down because I saw things in him that I knew he couldn\u2019t beat me.<\/p>\n

JW: You still don\u2019t like him, right?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

I still hate him, yeah. (both laugh) I swear to God it\u2019s so funny you say that Jesse. Two weeks ago I had a friend call me. He goes \u201cVinny I\u2019m with somebody I\u2019m gonna put you on the phone with him.\u201d People do that to me a lot. I go who is it? He goes \u201cjust talk to him, come on.\u201d I go Big Joe, his name is Big Joe, I go Big Joe, Whoooo is it? Don\u2019t just put me on the phone with somebody, just tell me who it is and then I\u2019ll go on the phone with them. \u201cNo Vinny no Vinny, here here here!\u201d He hands over the phone to the kid and the kid goes \u201cHey is this Vinny?\u201d I go yeaaahhh this is Vinny Paz\u2026 And who is this? \u201cIt\u2019s me Vinny, Dana!\u201d I said, Dana, I don\u2019t really know anybody named Dana that I like. I know one Dana, and I really don\u2019t like that Dana, I\u2019m sure this is not him.<\/p>\n

He goes, \u201cVinny, come on Vinny it\u2019s me, Dana Rosenblatt.\u201d I go Ohhh My God! Dude I hate you! Why would I want to talk to you? Why would he put me on the phone with you! \u201cOh come on Vinny, come on you\u2019re a good guy, let\u2019s just meet up.\u201d I go Dana, I can\u2019t hang out with you I\u2019m sorry (I\u2019m laughing hysterically). I\u2019m sorry, I\u2019m gonna end this phone call now. I hope you\u2019re doing well and that\u2019s as good as I can get for you, and I hung up (both laughing hysterically).<\/p>\n

JW: That\u2019s great! (still laughing)<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

That was literally two weeks ago!<\/p>\n

JW: IF you were a little bigger, you could\u2019ve been a WWF wrestler right?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Absolutely, Oh my God yeah.<\/p>\n

JW: So they bring you in for a fight between Bart Gunn and Butterbean!<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Oh My God I\u2019ll never forget that.<\/p>\n

JW: What were they thinking?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Jes it\u2019s so funny. McMahon calls me and asks if I\u2019ll ref a fight, I\u2019m like yeah sure. I said what\u2019s it like, who\u2019s gonna fight who? He\u2019s like \u201cWell a guy named Bart Gunn is gonna fight Butterbean. I\u2019m like really, wow, so who\u2019s gonna win? He goes \u201cwhat do you mean Vinny, it\u2019s real.\u201d I said what do you mean it\u2019s gonna be real, who\u2019s gonna win the fight? He\u2019s like \u201cNo Vinny, it\u2019s gonna be a real fight.\u201d I\u2019m like, you mean one of your wrestlers is gonna fight for real against Butterbean? I said Oh my God! Yeah I\u2019ll ref your fight that\u2019ll be cool. 20,000 people in the place it was sold out in Philadelphia, the Spectrum.<\/p>\n

So before the fight, I\u2019m meeting all the guys, I meet The Rock and I\u2019m meeting all these guys. So I ask, what do you think, my guy is going up against your guy Bart Gunn. Ahhh you know Vinny, Bart Gunn\u2019s a bad dude man, I forgot which guy it was, but one the guys says \u201cVinny, Bart Gunn\u2019s gonna kick his ass, he\u2019s gonna kick his fat ass all over the ring.\u201d I\u2019m like reaaallly!? So I wanna see my guy, I wanna see the boxer win over the wrestler. So I go to Bean\u2019s dressing room and I say hey Bean how you doing. \u201cGood Vinny, good good.\u201d I say you feeling good? He says \u201cyeah, yeah I\u2019m feeling good.\u201d I said, did you train hard for this like a real fight Bean? He says \u201cYeah Vinny I\u2019m good I\u2019m ready to fight.\u201d I said good good, because they say this guy\u2019s a bad dude, don\u2019t take him for granted. He says \u201cI\u2019m good Vinny I\u2019m good.\u201d The fight starts, I get them in the middle of the ring, read them their rights, boom, the fight starts. After the first, ten seconds of the fight, I go oh my God, Butterbean\u2019s gonna kill this fuckin guy. Sure enough, boom, drops him, and there were so many fans in there that wanted to see the wrestler win.<\/p>\n

I should\u2019ve called it right when he dropped the first time, but I didn\u2019t want to stop it (pauses for laughter) and make them feel like somebody was dead! So I literally took his arm, and put it over my shoulder and lifted him up! I says come on you\u2019re all right! I says, you can fight right!? You\u2019re good right!? Let\u2019s go Bart Come on! He goes \u201cUh yeah, umm I\u2019m good.\u201d Butterbean comes at him with a bomb and boom, drops him again and that\u2019s it, I stopped it then.<\/p>\n

JW: So after you picked up a half knocked out Bart Gunn and throw his ass back in there, is it safe to say that was your last day reffing?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

hat was my last day reffing. (both laughing hysterically) That\u2019s the last time they let me close to ring.<\/p>\n

JW: It\u2019s been a great interview. Last question is the same one I ask every fighter because it\u2019s the one that really matters. How do you want to be remembered?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

I want to be remembered as \u201cThe Pazmanian Devil\u201d, and I was a badass and I fought my balls off for my fans.<\/p>\n

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